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Ahem.

 

Well ok...I find this a topic of great interest.  Well to moi at least.

 

A woman taking a 9 hour medical exam requested more breaks so she could express milk for her baby.  Tjhey are only given 1 45 minute break during the entire 9 hour exam. Her request was denied because they are worried about cheating and others asking for special favors in the future. 

 

 (Apparently she has already failed the test once).

 

For starters, I am angry that she was denied the request because as a nursing mom knows, when the tata's get full, the pain can be excruciating (not to mention the major leakage!).  When the tata's get tooooo full, there is a huge risk of engorgement AND infection.

 

I don't feel that asking for a couple extra breaks to express milk for her child was asking to much.  Nursing moms work so hard to build their supply. If they were worried about cheating they could have searcher her beforehand and let no devices such as phones allowed in the room with her.

 

Many people feel she had adequate time to ween her baby.  What gives other people the right to tell her what to feed her child?  In her mind she is only doing what is best for her baby. 

 

Some may even argue that she should have taken the test at a later date.  I agree, if that could be arranged she should have gone that route, but I don't know what the circumstances are surrounding when the test is offered and so on.  The point here is that isn't it her RIGHT to be able to breastfeed her child?  In my opinion expressing milk should warrant the same kind of right.  They go hand in hand.  Again, nursing moms work very hard to build the supply to feed their child and BM has been proven to be healhtier for baby.

 

I know people either agree or don't.  I feel she should have been allowed to express the milk.  And as I am always doing....I have to include a photo that is in no means OFFENSIVE or VULGAR!

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Centauri65 read my blog
Sep 28, 2007 | 5:38 PM

I am not necessarily for or against the extra break but..... From what I read she has already been given accomodations for other things (such as letting her take the test over two days instead of the usual one) because of other issues she has (dyslexia and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). I do not want to sound cold here but just how many breaks should she be given? How have others in simmilar situations handled it? She wants to enter residency (something that is difficult and stressful). If she cannot cut it will she sue because she was up with the baby? Just how far should this go?

wfbdoglover read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:07 PM

9 hour medical exam - you mean like a study exam?

I would say I couldn't sit that long for the exam myself. I must have ADHD - actually it wouldn't surprise me if I do.

I am curious, if they only get 1 45 minute break, what happens to the other people that had to go to the bathroom? Do they get to go to the bathroom? Well, if they don't - I say she shouldn't be able to express her milk - 'cause if they have to hold it then she should too - BUT if it is the other way around.. well, I think you got my point.

wfbdoglover read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:08 PM

p.s. Can you post the picture in your comments? I bet it will show up then.

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:21 PM

wfbdoglover read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:22 PM

OK - from this website. http://newsfeedresearcher.com/data/articles_n39/idn2007
.09.27.01.19.11.html



"Currier said she risks medical complications if she does not nurse her daughter, Lea, or pump breast milk every two to three hours."

UM - isn't this a MEDICAL Exam?? Isn't she talking to the "National Board of Medical Examiners "?

No wonder I never go to the doctors....

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:24 PM

Hmmm....I would think that if they gave her the option she would just take it. The guy (don't recall name or position) made it sound like they wouldn't allow anything.

Hmmm.....

I hope for the sake of other nursing moms shes not being stubborn and giving us other nursing moms bad raps.

And yes they only get ONE 45 minute break. YOUCH! I wouldn't last two hours. I think I have a bladder issue. *whew*

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 7:41 PM

Well an dhonestly she's never said for how long she plans to breastfeed either. I mean, a year, 2 or 3....that might make a difference to because as Centauri said, if she's going for residency, it is going to be tough....especially with the other challenges she faces.

Interesting.

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 9:25 PM

Ok, so this is what i would have done.
I would have whipped out that avent hand pump right then and there and gave them the choice of whether or not I leave to do the job

topaz1213 read my blog view my photos
Sep 28, 2007 | 11:28 PM

The first thing that popped into my head right now is how women complain about equal rights and how men get the better end of the stick, and then when they do get the same opportunities they start bringing in the women excuses. This was an important medical exam that has rules and regulations and I don't think anyone should get special treatment unless there is a physical disability involved where it is truly needed. If a 9 hr exam was that important for her to take while she is nursing then she should've gone to the doctor beforehand, explained her situation so she could get some good ibuprofen to get her throught the exam. I doubt her supply was going to go anywhere.

desertwindrider read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 12:34 AM

Professional exams are very unforgiving. They do not give you a chance to deviate from their schedule regardless of your circumstances.

I can only sauggest that the mother should have known that this exam was coming up and should have timed her pregnancy at a more approprate time. That is what birth control is for, and, unfortunately, planning and forethought in creating a family is a necessity in today's world. And that is what the exam people will tell you. Not that it is right. But I have also had to deal with professional exams. Asking for special consideration of some sort is probably not going to get you any special consideration at all.

aaro-nf read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 10:58 AM

why deny her the right to express milk for her baby? that place violated her right to take a break and do that. that angers me as well. that place should be fined.

wbfdoglover read my blog
Sep 29, 2007 | 11:22 AM

The guy was busy. He had a 3 o'clock tee time. At $1,000 an hour, I would'nt give a break either.
Maybe someone should have had the foresight to think of asking when the procedure was scheduled if there could be an exception made.

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 12:04 PM

Ibuprofen? I don't think you understand the physical aspect of nursing.

It's a little bit more than slight discomfort.

ididwhat read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 2:48 PM

I am all for nursing babies, but I also think, rules are rules.

When I was nursing I had my life "on hold" because I had all of my attention on my baby and didn't include myself in anything that was taking myself away from my first priority.

Could be just me, but I would have never signed up for a nine hour test during that time.

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 3:53 PM

Does anyone know how that testing works? I mean as far as signing up for it. Is it one of those things that comes around once a year or what?

I'm just curious.

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 9:16 PM

Ok, rules are rules, but someone up above made a point. One 45 minute break? So that is when you eat and drink something. Eventually, that drink is going to need to come out. No bathroom breaks?

And as for ibuprofin, sorry, no help at all to that type of pain. Think of it this way. Someone pumps you up with water. You can choose the body part, just make sure it has a way to exit. Then when you feel like you are going to burst, think of what you will say when someone says, no, you may not get up.

I do think that it would be reasonable to have let her stop to pump. Maybe not have the baby there to feed, and if it were an issue of cheating, they could have arranged for someone to be with her for that 20 minutes.

But at the same time, would she have been able to finish the exam if she was taking breaks to pump or nurse?

And, she could have prepared for that by pumping or feeding the baby right before the exam, pumping or feeding the baby during that break, and then immediately after the exam.

That would have her pumping or nursing every three hours. How old is this child?

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Sep 29, 2007 | 9:22 PM

Oh, and while you are imagining your bodypart being filled up with water or the fluid of your choice, also imagine your skin stretching as far out as it can go to accomodate that fluid, not just full.

My very personal example. I am a B cup. And I am not kidding. I had to stop nursing and since I was stupid about it, those B babies, turned into medium sized canteloupe. Not fun, and the only thing that may have helped was anything that would knock me out.

Oh, and another thing. If she did get to that point, then there is the whole leaking issue. Yes they do make things for that, but if you are not allowed to leave, she was supposed to sit there in a wet shirt and be humiliated?

Another thing you can do to identify is either spray your shirt in that area or your pants if you are a guy and walk around. Try not to feel embarassed by the looks and comments you get.

Did I make my point yet? Rules are rules, but sometimes you do have to make an exception. I am not aware of the full situation here, but letting her pump for 15 or 20 minutes doesn't sound too off for me.

desertwindrider read my blog view my photos
Sep 30, 2007 | 1:03 AM

When i took the ACT, it was four hours. No breaks. We all went to the bathroom just before the exam, we did not drink anything, and believe me, we all headed for the bathroom four hours later when we were allowed to leave the exam room.

When I took another professional exam, it was two and a half hours in the exam room. No breaks. Then I voluntarily took the next exam, which was another two and a half hours. No breaks.

Professional exams are no joke, They test not only your mental capacity, but your body's ability to withstand denial for long periods of time.

These exams are NOT fun.

And I am considering taking yet another battery of professional exams in about six months. Another grueling four hours. No breaks.

So you plan for these exams and you plan WAAAAAAAAAAY ahead. The first mistake this lady made was getting pregnant and having a child while she was planning to have a professional life at the same time.

The proctors of these exams are employees of big and very well paid companies who are under legal mandates to ensure that their tests are absolutely fraud-proof. Allowing one person to take a break when it is not scheduled opens up questions by other test-takers and opens up potential liability claims against the testing companies. So to make everything simpler, you take the test in lock-step with your other test-takers. No exceptions.

My advice to this lady is to wait and take care of your baby now. Test later. It's just easier that way.

jen24 read my blog view my photos
Sep 30, 2007 | 7:34 AM

I wouldn't say her having a baby is a mistake! I do agree that however maybe she should just take the exam at a later date....

....but face it. Its life. Life doesn't always work out as planned. Things happen.

She does have a constitutional right to nurse and I think thats the issue at hand. Not whether or not she should have had the baby or what not.

MsTracy---you are right on! Many people do not understand that its not just slight discomfort. There were times I seriously felt like I was going to DIE the pain was so bad. And the leakage! I would have 7 nursing pads on each boob and they were DRENCHED within minutes! Why should she risk infection, which is possible with the engorgement.

Earwig read my blog
Sep 30, 2007 | 9:18 AM

I think all "young" women should show their breasts if they want to. But if they do they shouldn't complain about men looking. You can't have it both ways.

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