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I saw there was already a topic on this, but we're supposed to initiate stuff for our own blog, so here goes.

First, let me say my heart really went out to the woman in Racine who was practically kicked out of WAL MART of all places for breastfeeding her baby.  Here's what initially popped into my head... How many butt cracks have you seen in Wal Mart in your day?  I'm not trying to be crude, I'm serious.  Honestly, I grew up in Appalachia and let me tell you, there were many more butt cheeks than cleavage in that place- do people say anything to those people?  No!  We'll let that guy walk around with his crack hanging out, but let's harass nursing mothers!!!

For those of you who posted that it's as easy as taking a bottle- clearly you've never breastfed a baby, or your infant was the most easy going child on earth.  My daughter, who I nursed for eight months, REFUSED to take a bottle while I was breastfeeding her.  After I returned to work, she went hungry for awhile in the beginning because she just wouldn't take a bottle, it's not always that easy.

Do I think mothers should try to be as discreet as possible?  Of course.  And have I ever been a little put off by someone I see nursing her child in public for everyone to see?  Yes, I have.  But honestly, I think that says much more about me than it does a woman who's doing the absolute best thing she can for her child.

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F0x6Fan read my blog view my photos
Apr 9, 2008 | 6:25 PM

our society is so uptight.....breastfeeding is a natural thing to do....someone will always find something to get offended about

aaro-nf read my blog view my photos
Apr 9, 2008 | 6:56 PM

this blog is very interesting and informative to read, tami_hughes. did you see the response i posted on a blog that another blogger posted on this topic? as always, tami_hughes, great job on the posting of this blog.

Only1Antoine read my blog
Apr 9, 2008 | 7:08 PM

If a woman choose to breastfeed a child, then that's their right too. If the store is going to take that into an offense, then I guess all mothers (with newborns) would take it as a personal offense to defend the other mother who breastfed or at least tried to breastfeed her child in the store. I tell you, retail stores sure have a funny way of showing their hospitality especially when they say they want to treat you like a real customer or a guest in your store just like a home.

That's that favoritism ego talking and I don't like to play that (even though I'm not a woman)

hahnmeister read my blog
Apr 10, 2008 | 2:09 AM

Hey, businesses are not PUBLIC PROPERTY. They have the right to refuse service to anyone they want to really. A bouncer at a club can not let you in based on how you are dressed, look, etc. If a business wants to say 'no breast feeding' for whatever the reason, its their right, just like 'no food' or 'no pets'. I hope that when I go to a nice restaurant and someone else brings a disruptive child (or child that is too young), that they are asked to leave to maintain the right experience. Maybe a mother shouldnt be taking her baby to WalMart, or all places. I wouldnt... I wouldnt consider that a safe place to breast feed, bathroom or in an aisle. If it said it on the front door, so be it, thats their policy. Like I said in the other thread: what if it wasnt feeding, but needing to change a diaper (another 'need')? What, we have established that it wouldnt be in the bathroom already... and not in an aisle thank you! Its a parents responsibility to take care of their child's needs, and that doesnt mean at anyone else's expense, or anywhere they want. A mother might have the right to feed her child anytime, but that doesnt mean anywhere, or anyhow. Maybe you shouldnt take your baby some places, right?Now, I wouldnt think WalMart to be so 'classy' as to refuse a mother to breast feed, but what it really comes down to is customer service. If that employee has been cordial, considerate, accomidating, etc... I bet nothing would have happened. Thats the source of the complaint, not the policy. Also keep in mind that some people like to make a bigger stink about things

hahnmeister read my blog
Apr 10, 2008 | 2:09 AM

like this so they can get something for free. I know people like that... always plotting to see who they can get money out of by making a situation into a big deal.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 12:07 PM

db...that last statement isn't true. I bartended many years and would refuse service to anyone that came in in gang colors or with an attitude that caused disruption of my service. That is a threat to the business and if a dress code is posted, then they have the right to refuse service if that code is broken.

I breastfed my two youngest and wouldn't do it in public because I knew some people might be offended. I would pump and carry along a bottle if needed or go to my vehicle. Personally, I didn't want to be the center of attention or the talk of the store. These things can be timed. Just because a baby cries doesn't mean it is hungry. Maybe it just wants to be held. To me, you feed them before you go in and that way you avoid this confrontation.
I understand it's natural, but why cause a problem.

jgravelle read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 1:34 PM

Far be it for me to ever be found on the prudish side of any argument. Just hearing the words "breast" and "public" immediately puts me on the "PRO" side of just about any issue I can imagine.

But if I had to offer one valid defense of the Walmart employee, it would be this:

Those of us who've seen the story know full well that the customer in question had (and I'll phrase this delicately) breasts the size of economy mini-vans. A mere baby blanket draped over her shoulder would have been, at best, a feeble attempt at modest concealment of aereolae that in all likelihood might appear to be products of the Wham-O corporation.

Her only option for feeding her child "discreetly" in public would likely involve the sort of protective tarpaulin they drape across baseball diamonds in the rain, and an accompanying grounds-crew to unfurl it across the acreage of her bountiful bosom.

We are right to scorn the employee's over-reaction. But we are wrong to paint a halo over the head of anybody who, consciously or not, makes a spectacle of their lactation...


-jjg

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 2:33 PM

OK, I am only going to say this once again for the sake of HAHN, yes, they are a private comapany and have the right to have their rules, BUT the corporate offices insisted that it was their policy to allow nursing moms to nurse. And for when this comes up later, according to her, she was well covered and even put the cart in front of her so that even if people knew what she was doing under the blanket, they couldn't see it. SHE WAS NOT LETTING IT ALL HANG OUT!
I would think that if you were indecently exposed, that is one thing, but while a baby is nursing, you are not only covered by the baby, but even if you aren't using a blanket, most clothes are designed to show pretty much nothing. So, she did nothing wrong and as long as she was covered, nobody had the right to tell her to stop, especially in a store where the policy was to allow that.

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 3:40 PM

Exactly where was she when she proceeded to breastfeed?
I didn't catch that.

MrsTracy...I still wouldn't do it in a public place. You are just asking for gawkers both children and adults.

bassplayer92 read my blog
Apr 10, 2008 | 4:51 PM

I'm with jgravelle on this one. If a woman does not want to be concerned with exposing her breasts in public, then who am I to complain about it. I don't mind her doing that in public as long as she don't mind me looking at her doing it in public. Blanket or not, I feel it is a beautiful sight.

Now, if you think about what I said with an open mind that should be a deterent for nursing mothers to take it to a more private location. I mean really, we men already have the stereotype of being pigs, right? We might as well use that stereotype for the benefit of all involved participants.

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 4:59 PM

Kat,

When she was interviewed, she made it seem as if she was on a bench near the front of the store. I think in Racine, those benches are on the front wall as you pass through the checkouts. She said that she was covered, AND that she put her cart in front of her for "double" privacy. As far as I am concerned, she went above and beyond what alot of other nursing moms do. Plus he was a little baby, not an older one. (cute too) so if she was covered like she said she was, I am sure that with him being so small, she was completely covered because he wasn't able to stick out too much and not big enough to kick the blanket or whatever she used off like older babies try to do.

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 5:06 PM

Oh, and jjg, while I haven't been blessed with the minivan size, I do know that a baby blanket is enough to cover because the baby covers alot, and if you are using nursing clothes or a nursing bra, they don't expose much anyway. Only what you and the baby need to be successful. Even if she wasn't, pulling up your shirt will cover the top, the baby will cover the middle and side, so you don't really need to have a mammoth sized blanket for mammoth sized boobs anyway. Plus, even people who start out small can end up with bowling balls while nursing. The milk does fill in and it is like filling a balloon with water. Of course it is going to get bigger. There is no excuse for that employee because if it was a matter of the mom not being covered,she could have quietly asked the mom to cover up. The corporate offices said that they do allow moms to nurse in the store, so policy has nothing to do with it. The employee had no right to tell her it isn't allowed. She had the right to tell her that she is too exposed, IF she was. That is it.

Earwig read my blog
Apr 10, 2008 | 5:08 PM

As usual, jgravelle has the story right, and explains it in a way only he can.

You're wasting your talents here jjg

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 5:49 PM

MrsTracy, please understand, if I were shopping there I wouldn't have even noticed her. Wal-Mart's tend to be busy. If I had noticed I wouldn't have cared. It's her life and her choice. Anyone who would stare at a woman breastfeeding needs a psychological evaluation.

happylopezlady read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 5:53 PM

Target does offer a solution to this. I'm not sure if it's all Target stores but I did notice that one I was in had a sign that the "breastfeeding area" was in the woman's dressing room area. Doesn't that make perfect sense!

Katbird read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 6:07 PM

It sure does,Happy.
There are way too many perverts and gawkers out there. Why make it a sideshow event? That's the way they look at it.
The cashier was obviously offended.
I doubt they went over that in the rulebook when she started working there. Although, I'm sure many stores will now.

F0x6Fan read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 6:16 PM

jgravelle....had this one right...they only made an issue of it because of her ....yes i'll say it.... "SIZE"....if she had been flat-chested, no one would have said a word

happylopezlady read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 7:01 PM

bassplayer92, I think most men would probably agree with your take on the situation. The ones who seem to have such a problem with it have "issues".

Even a male friend that I respected as a father and a husband I caught taking a second glance at me because he thought I was maybe breastfeeding. Being a father he probably assumed because of the way I was holding my son with the blanket covering him that I was nursing, still he continued to glance over, hoping to see something! Men will be men, nothing wrong with that.

hahnmeister read my blog
Apr 10, 2008 | 7:38 PM

ColbyDog and dbinracine, you try to paint me as some puritanical anus with 'issues', but did you not read the part where I also think women should be allowed to be topless in public just like men? Drrrrrrrr... let me know when the light turns on for you. Im simply defending business rights here. A business is a private establishment, and when we start putting too many restrictions on that as the public, we hinder it. Thank you Katbird for backing me up some and offering some moderation as well as insight into decency. I cant imagine my other half wanting to breast-feed in public, gawkers, etc... even if she is covered. Heck, I wouldnt risk taking a baby to WalMart in the first place, or any other retail establishment. I asked my mother, and the only places she took me at that age was to other relatives homes and the doctor. Thats all. Things fall in stores, other customers can be careless, etc. As it seems to turn out, the employee was wrong... that happens. The issue wasnt that the employee was wrong so much as rude. The issue isnt breast feeding in public since its not public (you can riddle that case with holes anyways just like the baby diaper issue), but poor customer service. Maybe the employee was experiencing some 'flat girl on busty girl' jealousy that day, maybe she didnt get to breast feed her kids... who knows.

Lets say it was something else, like changing the baby's diaper (I do love that one). You NEED to do it sometimes... does that justify being able to do it anywhere?

And happylopezlady, men who are spoken for are more perverted than the

MrsTracy read my blog view my photos
Apr 10, 2008 | 7:41 PM

Kat,

I would have noticed, but only because I miss those days. I would not however have stared and if I was one of those offended people, I probably would have just looked away. I think she did get a raw deal, and while legally she has no basis to sue, if I were her, when the manager offered to pay for her groceries that night, I would have also asked what happened to the employee who publicly embarrassed her. But that is just me. I don't think that much embarrassment is worth only a cartload of groceries. I would want to know if that employee was still employed or if she was at least being written up or something. I think the employee should be made to apologize and in public since she made this woman's nursing a public issue in the store.

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FOX 6 Anchor/Reporter Hey all you bloggers! Here are some things that I think sum me up... coffee, kids, Van Morrison, cinnamon, Food Network, exercise, wine, Miami Hurricanes, naps, four-legged critters, and wifey. (In no particular order-sorry hubby!)

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